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Offseason Update: Drastic Changes Coming to PA Legion Baseball

Posted by Legion Baseball on October 31, 2011 at 10:45 PM

While players and coaches around the state have been unwinding after a long and successful season for Pennsylvania American Legion Baseball, the groups that oversee the state and national programs have been hard at work.  Over the next couple of summers, legion baseball in the state will phase in two rather drastic changes.  


The national legion program has announced that beginning in the summer of 2015, legion baseball will again become exclusively available to high school aged players.  This means that age-eligible players who have been able to play for their legion team after their first year of college will no longer be able to do so in a few years.  The hope and belief is that allowing teams to only field their squads from high school aged students will give more opportunity to younger players and create less turnover and turmoil for teams across the country.


Also of note, the national legion passed an agreement that all states must participate under the same national legion rules.  In the past, states or leagues within each state have taken liberty with such rules as courtesy runners, game re-entry, and the number of eligible players on each team.  The new rule reiterates that programs must all compete under the same guidelines.  States and leagues are still entitled to determine game length, which is at seven innings for most leagues but must be at nine innings for playoff games.


We had been alerted recently to a drastic rule change for PA Legion Baseball taking effect in 2013, and though the news has not yet been officially released by the state, several news outlets have posted information regarding it so we feel the need to confirm that information.  It has been highly publicized (and scrutinized) that the national legion's bat standards had become confusing and daunting over the past few years.  We heard many horror stories from across the state regarding what bats (BESR vs BBCOR and composite) were usable, and which weren't.  It has been known for a while now that in 2012, legion baseball will adopt BBCOR bat rules that the NCAA adopted last year.  This new change will bring continuity to the bat standards and also provide a great deal more safety to pitchers in harms way.


While that news is welcoming, PA Legion Baseball has decided to become one of the largest baseball organizations in the country to adopt even stricter bat rules.  In 2013, PA Legion Baseball will be switching solely to wooden bats for all of its baseball games.  The change will have many benefits to teams and players around the state.  Wooden bats currently retail for 15-20% of the cost of a BBCOR metal bat.  In addition, the new bats will provide a great deal of improvement in safety to the pitcher and surrounding players.  PA Legion Baseball players will have many years of wooden bat hitting practice which should greatly aid in increasing the number of players drafted into the professional baseball ranks.  Simply put, our state's players are being put in a situation where they will be ahead of the vast majority of high school hitters in the country.  It should also be noted that state officials intend to make bat purchase agreements solely with Pennsylvania based company which will add jobs at a time when they are desperately needed.  This is certainly not a decision that came easily, and is not one that will be without opposition.  But as it stands, PA Legion Baseball will serve as a national leader in wooden bat usage, and for that, we should all be proud.


For any questions or comments regarding the rule changes, please do not hesitate to contact us at palegionbaseball@gmail.com and we'll help in any way we can.  Thanks for stopping by, enjoy the snow!

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6 Comments

Reply Nate
08:21 AM on November 01, 2011 
I think that going wood bat is a great idea. The rumor of going wood bat was presented to us by our regional director, at our last meeting. For the entire Wyoming Valley American Legion Baseball League, the adoption of going soley wood bat will begin in the 2012 season for us. With that being said our entire regular season and league playoffs will be played with wooden bats. It will then be up the team advancing to regional play if they want to continue using wood or switch to BBCOR for their remainder of the post season.
Reply Legion Guy
09:33 PM on November 01, 2011 
Once again, it appears the decision makers in Indianaoplis live in a different world than the one I see around here:

The hope and belief is that allowing teams to only field their squads from high school aged students will give more opportunity to younger players and create less turnover and turmoil for teams across the country.

Last I checked, we are losing teams, and for just about every team in my area, having to turn a lot of kids away from their Legion program is the furthest thing from their biggest problem. A lot of college freshmen who get minimal playing time in their first season need places to play in that first summer where they will legitimately be able to get a lot of playing time; Legion was perfect for that. Additionally, it seems to me that adding these players does a lot to improve the quality of ball and it does a lot to help teams who are strugging for numbers... which is A LOT of teams right now.
The rationale posted on the National Legion site comes from a perspective quite foreign to most teams around here.
Reply Legion Baseball
09:59 PM on November 01, 2011 
Nate, it's great to hear that your league (and others) are taking initiative to promote safety and the other benefits that come along with wooden bats as soon as possible. Having young hitters learn how to use wooden bats can only help their chances of getting professional and college attention when (and if, perhaps) college baseball goes to all wood.

Legion Guy, I agree with your sentiment in that some teams (perhaps a majority) need the use of the older players to help solidify their teams and keep their teams intact. On the other hand, I've heard from countless coaches who were not at all happy with the switch to allow college players as they saw these kids as 'ringers' of sorts, where teams were using college kids to beat sixteen year olds. It's a shame that those freshman college players will need to find another location to play in a few years, but at the very least, at least there is ample notice and perhaps other leagues will spring up to offer them a place to hone their skills.
Reply YankeesRJL88
08:19 PM on December 15, 2011 
Nate, tell Gino he better be doing ALOT of fund raising!!!
Reply ballparkbob
08:29 PM on January 07, 2012 
I really hope that Legion baseball will reconsider the move to wood bats for 2013. If you look at what BBCOR did to change college baseball, you will see that hitting statistics and runs scored have returned to the pre-metal bat days anyway. Moreover, BBCOR bats are made to mimic the same rebound power as wood bats so they are just as safe.

I coach in an area where we compete mainly with travel teams for the best players. The players will be using metal bats in high school and they are not going to want to move to wood for Legion. In fact, many guys are going to leave Legion for travel ball to avoid playing with wood. It would be a different story if high school were also making the move to wood, but they are not.

It also concerns me that the smaller players at the Junior Legion level will leave the game, because they just can't hit very well with wood. These are the same players that may have a growth spurt and be strong varsity players in a few years.

Let's get through 2012 and hope that the decision to move to wood will be re-evaluated in favor of moving to BBCOR bats instead.
Reply PhillyBall
08:34 AM on January 18, 2012 
Have the cost/financials been closely looked at?
1 of the Eastern PA Bat Reps, CHANDLER, have informed teams that a "very good deal" was negotiated on bats.
Their default model, the KM1, is $130 as the negotiated rate.
How can this be considered 15-20% the cost of a BBCOR?

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